Investigations

 INFORMATION FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN AN INVESTIGATION OF THEIR SITE:

The Paranormal Housewives:  What to Expect from an Investigation

(Frequently Asked Questions)

  • What do you do in an investigation, and what are you looking for?

We use a combined approach to paranormal investigation: we are not exclusively “sensitives”, psychics or mediums, nor are we entirely wedded to technology. We feel the best approach to the paranormal is to employ as many different methods as possible. Paranormal events cannot be researched effectively by ignoring one’s psychic impressions (which we have all honed over many years of personal experiences) or by relying exclusively on audio, K-2 meters, ITC devices, video and other technologies. Therefore, we pay attention both to what our members feel and sense as well as what we hear during audio playback. The goal is to find convergence: if what we sense, see or intuit is validated by audio, video, digital photography or ITC, then we have a stronger case for making claims regarding the “paranormality” of an incident, or for deciding that a location is “haunted”.

We are not looking for anything in particular. A location is active, or it is not; we take our direction from what finds us, not what we are seeking.

  • What do you do with the data you collect?

We will first make sure that the majority of the team agrees that any evidence collected points to the paranormal before we show it to you. You will be presented with what we consider paranormal, and you are free to make up your own mind regarding what you are hearing/seeing. We will never try to convince you that your location is haunted. We can give you our opinion based on the data. The rest is up to you.

If you would like to keep the information we collect confidential, we are happy to respect your wishes. We can also post the results of the investigation without revealing your location. If you would like a full report posted on our website, we are happy to do that as well. The decision is yours to make. Many hotels, theaters, restaurants and historic locations find that a haunting is good for business! Never underestimate the popularity of ghosts among the general public.

  • How long does an investigation take?

The length of time depends on the size and activity of a particular location. Usually, we need at least three hours to cover a location. We may also need to visit the site multiple times if we suspect that there is paranormal activity there.

  • Do you need to investigate only at night?

No. Spirit activity or paranormal events can occur at any time of day or night. There are typically reports of activity at a location during certain hours—we try to investigate during the times when the most activity has been reported.

  • Do you find demons or negative spirits?

We typically do not interpret voices on audio as demonic, as we do not specialize in that area of inquiry. We are not exorcists, demonologists, or experts in religion. The energy at a location can be negative, but that does not necessarily mean that it is demonic. If we suspect that we are encountering something inhuman or very negative, we refer it to other specialists in the area for their insight and analysis.

  • Do you charge for your investigations?

We never charge money for an investigation. We are a non-profit group. We often make donations to historic sites or come to an agreement on a fee for use of the location. Often a site decides that the positive publicity on our website is worth the time it takes to conduct an investigation.

  •  Can I be involved in any way?

Anyone who wishes to sit in on our investigation is more than welcome. We depend on you for background information on the location, any reports of paranormal activity, and the history of the site.

  • Where can I get more information?

Visit our website: paranormalhousewives.com (and if you are reading this here, you obviously found our website!). You can also reach us kirstenthorne@gmail.com or find us on Facebook.

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This photo was taken by Kirsten at an undisclosed location. The person on the left is Marsha. However, we don’t know who is to the right of her. No one was there at the time. This investigation did not include all the Paranormal Housewives, and this photo has not been declared paranormal by all of us–I include it here for the readers to decide what these images mean. Marsha is convinced that this photo has definitely captured something unexplained and strange. What do you think?

Undisclosed location: October 2010

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AMARGOSA MAID’S QUARTERS EVPs: SEPTEMBER 25th, 2010

Amargosa High Voice         After John coughs, there is a voice that sounds like a child. Can you make out what she is saying? It’s not one of us.

Amargosa Maria     This clip speaks for itself.

Amargosa What the Hell   Three of us like this a lot and think it’s mysterious. One of us says it’s the Ghost Meter making the noise. What do you think?

Amargosa Short Clip 11 32  We didn’t really know what to do with this clip. We can’t debunk it, but we can’t verify it. I include it only to see if anyone can make out what this male voice might be saying.

The first two clips were unanimous. We all agreed that they could represent something paranormal. The last two had some support, but not enough for the PHW to stand behind them as evidence of spirit activity.

 

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Rancho Los Amigos Medical Center–EVPs

***Note: Electronic Voice Phenomena captured on digital audio is not always easy to hear. There are different “classes” of EVPs–Class A, Class B, and Class C. It is very difficult to catch “Class A” EVPs, which are easily heard by almost everyone, and there is a general consensus as far as the interpretation of what is heard. We do not claim that everyone will be able to hear the following EVPs, which are probably in the “Class B” category, meaning that most people with the right headphones and speakers should be able to hear the voices or noises, but there will not be widespread agreement on the interpretation of the content. Listen and decide for yourself–we encourage you to leave comments or questions.

–Kirsten A. Thorne

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THE WAGON WHEEL: OXNARD, CA (July 2010)

The kitchen and bar area are the most “haunted” places on the property–here the atmosphere is so thick that it is very difficult to spend much time there. It feels as if you need to move on quickly. The entire time I was wandering through this particular area, I was sure that someone was following me. I looked behind me again and again, and I was completely alone.

Clearly, the Wagon Wheel is beyond renovation at this point.

The main changing rooms for the pool. Sadly, the graffiti and general state of the place indicate that taggers have had there way with what remains of what was, not so long ago, a family vacation destination.

The office area is filled with records of the people that lived there, indicating that the motel itself became long-term housing in the 1990s.

The office building and manager’s quarters.

Some of the upper-end suites.

The open rooms are completely destroyed.

Here I am, thinking it’s time to leave.

I hope you enjoyed this tribute to the Wagon Wheel. Although we didn’t conduct a formal investigation, we hope to do so in the near future. I have no doubt that this entire area is filled with the energy of previous occupants. I wish it had a future, but for now we content ourselves with piecing together the Wagon Wheel’s past.

Kirsten A. Thorne


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Linda Vista: June 17th, 2010.

The investigation took place during the day–a first for us all. That did not mean, however, that there was a loss of “atmosphere”; the hospital was as foreboding, if not more so, than it is at 2:00 am. We started our investigation in the Surgical Suite, where we have encountered the infamous “humming child” so many times. We were not disappointed, even though she did not make her presence as obvious as she has in the past. Our EVP session was characterized by movement: shuffling in the hallway and in the room next door; unexplained movement of the plastic covering the windows, when there was absolutely no breeze; and small noises that shifted location, keeping us dashing from one area to the next.

Video footage did not pick up anything extraordinary; but audio did. During our EVP session on the third floor (where a “Dr. Edward” is claimed to roam) there was constant whispering under our voices. Sometimes we heard and commented on these quiet conversations, sometimes we didn’t hear them–but audio revealed that someone, or various people (souls, spirits, what?) were talking almost the entire time we were on that floor. We heard the voices of children that did not come from outside, and there were responsive noises to some of our questions. In one particularly great clip, a child’s laugh is very clear (watch for that under “evidence,” as soon as we figure out how to upload audio to WordPress!).

Although the above is not a “paranormal” picture of Erin, (it’s the result of low light, a manual setting, and movement) I had to include it because it is so . . . creepy, and a good example of what some sites post as supernatural. This was taken in the Surgical Suite, where I am attempting to capture us in action without using flash. Very difficult to do, as it turns out. Photos from the investigation did not turn up anything unusual.

From left: Nicole, Marsha, Lawrence, Erin

The old elevator by the original morgue still works. It took us to the fifth floor, where we stayed for a grand total of . . . 10 minutes. The reason? See below:

The entire floor is so dilapidated and horrifyingly filthy that not even the intrepid PHWs could stomach it. The fifth floor represents the decay and sadness of Linda Vista. It’s hard to remember, sometimes, that this was a working hospital where the drama of life and death played itself out every day. Now, it’s a haven for movies, music videos and ghost hunters, but at one time the stakes were high and patients clung to life.

What does it mean for a place to be haunted? Linda Vista defines the term. A place can be overwhelmed by emotion, trauma, loss, terror and loneliness. A building can absorb only so much of that energy before it throws it back into the atmosphere, creating and recreating scenes that ended years, decades ago.

Many people still occupy this hospital, carrying on conversations that should have faded long ago. We walk the halls, sometimes frightened, sometimes intrigued, sometimes sad . . . but always curious. Who are you? What happened to you? Will we ever know?

Kirsten on the 3rd floor

Comments
  1. parawife says:

    Linda Vista Hospital never disappoints!!

  2. Joanne Kennedy says:

    Where is the original morgue? What floor is it on? Also, do you know where the ER is at? Going there at the end of the month and would love to see these spots.

    Thanks!

    • parawife says:

      The original morgue is a small room on the main floor, just off to the left as you cross the hallway from the main admitting area. The ER area–about that I’m not so sure–I believe it’s the ground floor, where the surgical suite it.

  3. Tina Chavez says:

    The third EVP….holy crap lol

  4. hmmm…I don’t have good ears, but I though the child from the first clip was saying “ooohh”

    As for the man’s voice, I couldn’t make out what he was saying…I though it was either “Now” or “Bow.” Just listening to these recordings gives me shivers…O_o Thanks for putting them up 🙂 Ya’ll are some brave peeps!

    Anna

    • parawife says:

      Anna, thank you so much for listening to our EVPs and giving us some feedback! They are not “Class A” EVPs, but I’m happy with them! Especially considering that we were all convinced that not much was happening in the Maid’s Quarters. Guess we were wrong!

  5. Patricia says:

    Do you think the Undisclosed location: October 2010 is possibly at a psyche ward/ hospital?

  6. Chris says:

    This is a long exposure and you can see that the camera was whipped around to point somewhere else. Can you please post the metadata on this photo? I suspect there is nothing paranormal about it.

    • parawife says:

      Hi Chris!!!!!
      I’m afraid I don’t know how to post “metadata” on the photo. I can say, however, that I clearly remember taking the shot, and yes, I did move the camera–however, there was no one remotely similar in the area to the figure on the right of Marsha. Does that make it a ghost? No, not necessarily, just not something I can explain.

  7. Chris says:

    The “person” may be Marcia herself as it is clearly a long exposure. As for posting metadata i’m sure you can enlist the help of a photographer who knows how to find it. I’m surprised you haven’t examined the metadata as it usually is the first thing people verify when dissecting a photo.

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  9. Pam Gardner RN says:

    Please contact me I’m only here until mon 214-578-5104
    I am in group in Dallas Tx and write about paranormal.

  10. Efrain Corona says:

    I used to deliver beer to the Wagon Wheel, and I always got that feeling you described in your report. The lights were always off, and I would have to walk down that angled hallway into the walk-in cooler to turn on the lights and be able to see what I was doing. I could not hurry fast enough to just get out of there.

    • parawife says:

      Hi Efain,
      I wish I could have been there when it was open. I’m not surpised that it was creepy even back then–there is something strange there, something that makes me very, very uncomfortable. I need to do some more research into the land and the history there. Have you been back to see what’s left of the place? Pretty sad.

      • Efrain Corona says:

        I have been by there, and it is a shame. From what I have seen in the news, they have recently begun to demolish the place. I know it had become a “crack hotel” in the years before it closed, and it had become a place where bad things happened, because of the people that lived there. For some reason, I believe whatever “that” was might be attributed to something that was there before it began its decline.

  11. Gloria says:

    I have lived in Oxnard my whole life I live about 5 miles from the wagon wheel it was demolished about a 2 years ago or so and I’ve always wondered if it was haunted my grandma tells me it is. I’ve done research on it but I didn’t quiet find anything I hope y’all go back to the grounds soo I wana know about it ! Also about that restaurant that the closed down due to serving alcohol to minors thank hope to hear from you soon!

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